Showing posts with label MLB realignment. Show all posts
Showing posts with label MLB realignment. Show all posts

Friday, November 18, 2011

Ridiculous Fan Comments 11.19.2011

Major League Baseball made it official. According to ESPN, The Houston Astros have been sold and will be leaving the National League's Central division for the American League's West division (Delta Sky Miles Diamond status, here we come). In addition, MLB will adding two wild card teams (one for each league), possibly as soon as next season.

For baseball fans, this news is huge. Realignment hasn't happened since the Milwaukee Brewers made the switch from the American League to the National League after the 1997 season, and the playoffs haven't been expanded since the first wildcard spot was created in 1994. As you probably assume, opinions about these changes are both copious and mixed.

Let's Be Logical has opinions about the changes, too. I could just lay them out, but would that be as exciting as weaving them into a Ridiculous Fan Comments (RFC) post? Of course, not.

As always, I'll give you the comment first, and then my response. Since this is such big news and since the holidays are nigh, I'm going to cover more than one RFC for the first time (consider it a Vultured Mailbag if you want). All comments come from an AP article on espn.com titled, "Astros' sale finalized; 2 more for playoffs."

the 15/15 arrangement needs to be temporary...2 new teams should be added within the next few years, both in Southern markets in the NL so that Colorado can move to the AL

posted by 1990_big_z

For those unaware, the "15/15 arrangement" refers to there now being 15 teams in the American League and 15 in the National League. The biggest complaint with this arrangement (and the one I'm assuming big_z has) is that interleague play is now going to occur all season, instead of just during a couple of weeks in May and late-June.

I hate to break it to you, big_z, but interleague play isn't going anywhere. As Peter Schmuck from the Baltimore Sun notes, people still show up in droves for interleague games, even non-rival ones. Owners aren't going to kill any golden geese, especially during tough economic times. Yes, schedule disparities abound due to interleague play (the Mets have to play the Yankees six times every year while the Nationals get the Orioles), and that is a travesty. Fairer scheduling is something the players are asking for, though, so maybe we'll get it as a result of this realignment/collective bargaining session (Don't laugh at my naivete. Call it blind optimism if you want, but don't laugh).

Also, adding two teams to give each league sixteen won't work, either. I know what you're thinking, big_z, if each league has sixteen teams interleague play becomes unnecessary. The problem with that idea is there isn't enough talent in the world to adequately fill the 30 teams that currently exist. How else can you explain why Jo-Jo Reyes remains gainfully employeed? Adding two teams would dilute the talent pool further, which would drive down the level of play, thereby making MLB less watchable. Do you really want to pay money to watch a team whose number two starter and starting second baseman are Kenshin Kawakami and Brooks Conrad, respectively? I didn't think so.

Milwaukee should have went back to the AL where they belong. Houston has been in the NL for 50 years. Apparently history means nothing to Selig. He continues to cheapen the product. Why add more teams to the playoffs, even if only one game? MLB is not the NBA or NHL.

posted by captain_morgan_2008

First of all, captain_morgan, baseball, like every professional sport, is a form of entertainment. Bud Selig's main job, therefore, is to keep people entertained. Otherwise, the league loses fans/viewers, and as a result, money. Adding an extra wild card team is definitely going to keep more fan bases involved longer into the season, and the one game playoff will surely get people talking.

History has nothing to do with it. So what if the Astros have been in the NL for 50 years? They've never won the World Series and have only been once (2005), so it's not like they're one of the pillars of National League. Change can be a good thing.

You are right about one thing, captain. MLB is certainly not the NBA or NHL. Whenever the two wildcard teams get added (either this season or next), 33% of MLB teams will make the playoffs (10 out of 30). In the NHL 53% of teams make the postseason (16 out of 30), while in the NBA a whopping 57% qualify (16 out of 28). Making the playoffs in baseball will still be much more difficult, mathematically speaking at least, even after the two wildcard spots are added.

By the way, 37.5% of NFL teams make the postseason (12 out of 32).

I can't believe they're actually adding another two teams.. I guess it really is all about the money.

posted by russianshoulders

Welcome to capitalism, comrade.

Well Selig has taken another step in screwing up the game. Why didn't he move his sorry Brewers back to the A.L. from whence they came if he wanted to even everything out? The DH is not baseball, it is not how it is taught, not how it was invented and does not make the game any better. Get back to the basics. Gone are the good rivalries Houston vs. Reds, Dodgers, Reds, Mets, Phillies, Braves. Some of the most exciting playoffs ever. He has set this team of for failure. More playoffs teams are not needed, it is just greed, wanting more fan dollars. Nothing wrong with wanting to expand as a business, why not just make it like hockey and let every team except a few into the playoffs. That will really make the season more exciting. Good job, moron!

posted by TEALCURTAIN

Harsh words, TEALCURTAIN, but bonus points for incorporating "whence" into your comment.

Let's start with the Brewers. Formerly being in the American League doesn't automatically make them the best candidates to be sent back. The Astros make a lot more sense for a number of reasons. First, as I stated earlier, they're not one of the pillars of the National League. Second, they have new owners, and making a big change is much easier for new owners that aren't used to things being a certain way. Third, the Texas Rangers make a great natural rival for the Astros, and maximizing the amount of times those teams play each other will help both teams financially and otherwise. Fourth, the Astros are a better geographical fit for the AL West than the Brewers.

I do agree about the DH. I think it should be totally done away with in MLB (except in the All-Star game). I'm not really sure why you mention the DH, though, unless you're just really upset that the Astros will have to start using one. If that's a deal breaker for you, then I have to question your fanhood.

I'm also unclear on the Astros and Braves rivalry. I'm a diehard Braves fan, and I don't consider the Astros a rival in the least bit. I don't know a single Braves fan that does, either. They faced each other in the League Division Series five times between 1997 and 2005, with the Braves winning the first three and the Astros the last two, but does that make them rivals? In my book, no, especially since only one of those series went to five games (2004).

And what, exactly, is wrong with MLB wanting to maximize revenue? They're not doing it in an illegal/immoral way; they're simply giving two more teams a chance to win the World Series every year. Would you be against the Astros making the playoffs as the fifth team from the American League? I doubt it very seriously.

Addition of playoff slots is HORRIBLE. Imagine last year's September if it had this. Braves and Cards both safely in, Sox and Rays both safely in. Instead we got one of the most exciting finishes in MLB history. I hope the players refuse to approve that garbage.

The only reason MLB wants this is to make Red Sox chasing the Yankees more exciting and meaningful. This improves things for one division and makes it much worse for the other 5. Selig is a horrible commish.


posted by Desiderata03

You're not alone in this sentiment, Desiderata03. A lot of people think adding playoff teams will ruin exciting finishes to the regular season.

Let me ask you to imagine something, though. Imagine if the Braves and Red Sox had both won one more game in April. If they had, they would have both made playoffs and we would have a different World Series champion. Both teams could have still tanked in the exact same ways in September, but they still would have made the postseason. Would we all still be lauding the exciting finish of the regular season if that had happened (actually, would all you still be lauding, because I thought it was a terrible finish)? No, I don't think we would. Instead, we would be talking about how the Braves and Red Sox stumbled into the postseason in the ugliest fashion possible (especially if one of those teams had won the World Series). One more win by either or both teams and our perceptions would have totally changed.

Furthermore, even if the new playoff rules would have been in place last season, excitement would have still abounded. Imagine the build-up to a one game series (assuming that's the format they go with) between the Braves and Cardinals or the Red Sox and Rays. Will the Braves/Sox finally win a game they need to win? Do they have anything left in the tank? Will the Cards/Rays be able to leave no doubt that they belong? Can they keep the magic alive? Desiderata03, these games would have been full of excitement.

Enough imagining. The important thing to realize is that adding a playoff team in no way makes it impossible to have an exciting finish to the season. Finishes for the second wild spot can be just as exciting as they have been for the wild card in the past. Plus, teams will still fight to win the division like they always have. In fact, they might start fighting harder. If I were a major league manager, I know I'd rather win the division and get a guaranteed spot in a five game division series than have to risk losing a one game, winner take all "wild card series."
That's it for this installment of Ridiculous Fan Comments.

I will, however, sum up my feelings on the changes in case I didn't make them clear enough. I have no problem moving the Astros to the AL West. I also don't have a problem adding two playoff teams. Is it the way I would do things if I were commissioner of MLB? Probably not, but that's for another post. Nevertheless, adding two playoff teams will keep more fans interested in baseball for longer, which can only be a good thing for MLB its franchises. As I stated earlier, change can be a good thing. Is this the best change MLB could make? Maybe or maybe not; sometimes a person or organization has to try a couple of bad ideas before finding the best one. The fact that MLB is trying to improve its product should be worth something, especially for a sport that has been accused many times of being too attached to its past. I think we should at least see how the changes are going to work before passing judgment.

Thanks for reading.



Wednesday, July 13, 2011

MLB Realignment: The Fairest Way to Do it


The title of this blog is “Let’s Be Logical.” I think if more people used basic logic (or common sense) a lot of our world’s problems—economically, socially, etc.—would disappear or at least become much more manageable. Alas, usage of sound logic among the populace seems to get lower and lower by the day.

I’m not here to solve the world’s problems. Yet. What I do want do is occasionally take an issue and present possible solutions in a logical way. Sometimes I’ll provide input on what I think is the best course action, and sometimes I won’t. I mainly just want to present the facts.

Not all of my blog posts will be like this, but hey, it is in the title. Logically speaking, the title of the blog should match at least some of its contents.

The first issue I’m going to write about is Major League Baseball (as you might have guessed from the post’s title—see, we’re already being logical). Baseball is a passion of mine, and Major League Baseball is my favorite professional league to follow. By the way, college football is second. I know, it’s not professional (at least it’s not supposed to be). 

Specifically, I am going to discuss the realignment issue that is the hot topic in MLB circles right now. For those who may be unaware, realignment basically deals with changing the way the 30 teams in MLB are organized. One of the root issues of realignment is fairness. As such, I want to present the fairest realignment option possible. By fair, I mean that no team has a scheduling advantage over any other team when it comes to making the playoffs.

Assumptions
  
No teams will be added or taken away from the current 30 that comprise MLB. As far as I or anyone else seems to know, that is not even remotely an option of the realignment discussion. Personally, I think there’s barely enough talent to field 30 competitive teams, much less 32.

If you are unaware of the current set-up of MLB, look here. It will show you how the leagues and divisions currently work. Look here for information about the playoffs.

The Concept: No Leagues or Divisions; Schedule is completely balanced

This option does away with all divisions and both leagues. Now, every team is in one, giant pool. Every team would play every other team 6 times (3 at home, 3 on the road). That equals a 174 game season. If MLB wanted to keep the playoffs at 8 teams (which is unlikely), then the top 8 teams would make the playoffs. If the playoffs are expanded, the top 10 or 12 or how many ever teams would make it.

Fairness Level: 10/10

This is the fairest option possible. Every team plays every other team 6 times. In other words, the schedule is perfectly balanced; every team has the same schedule. Teams can’t complain about another team having an easier schedule.

Other Pros of this Option

Since every team plays all the other teams, rivalries (like the Red Sox/Yankees) would remain intact. Also, every team would get to host every other team for 3 games, which means fans would have the chance to see any team or player play in their local team’s stadium. 

Likelihood: 0%

A lot of people are griping at the possibility of losing the divisions. Imagine if they took away leagues, too. It won’t happen, and it probably shouldn’t. Some traditions after all, are a good thing (I’m NOT looking at you, DH) Also, the importance of the regular season could dwindle immensely (especially if the playoffs are expanded). We don’t want MLB to become the NBA.

Another potential negative is that the same teams might make the playoffs every year, further decreasing interest in the sport. Take a look below at the top teams in MLB for the past 5 seasons in regards to regular season standings. Obviously, we can’t assume these seasons would have ended the same way under the proposed format, but it’s the best data we have to go on. I’ll include the top 10 teams each year because as stated earlier the playoffs are probably going to be expanded.


2010
Phillies
Rays
Yankees
Twins
Giants
Reds
Braves
Rangers
Padres
Red Sox

2009
Yankees
Angels
Dodgers
Red Sox
Phillies
Rockies
Cardinals
Giants
Marlins
Rangers

2008
Angels
Cubs
Rays
Red Sox
Phillies
Brewers
Mets
Yankees
White Sox
Twins

2007
Indians
Red Sox
Angels
Yankees
Diamondbacks
Rockies
Phillies
Padres
Tigers
Mariners

2006
Yankees
Mets
Twins
Tigers
Athletics
White Sox
Angels
Padres
Dodgers
Blue Jays


(This list was compiled from baseball-reference.com)

By my count, 26 different teams filled what would have been 50 possible playoff spots under the proposed system. That’s 26 out of 30 total teams. Only the Pirates, Royals, Nationals, and Orioles failed to crack the 10 in final regular season standings over the past 5 seasons (again, by my count). I’d say that’s pretty balanced. So, the argument that the same 10 teams would make the playoffs every year may not be valid.

Still, taking away the leagues and divisions is probably a bit much, especially for all those baseball purists. Furthermore, no one, and I mean no one, wants to lengthen the season by 12 games.

A possible alternative that would allow the leagues to remain would be for each team to play the other teams from its league 6 times each and teams from the other league 5 times (An NL team would have to be switched to the AL). The top 4 or 5 teams from each league would make the playoffs. That would make the season 159 games. This is still mostly fair because teams in the same league would have the same schedule. Scheduling such a format would probably be a major headache, if not virtually impossible, though.

That’s it. The fairest realignment option possible. Will it ever happen? No. Should it? Not if it means 174 games. If we're talking about the 159 game plan, the biggest issue I can think of at the moment is that it could vastly decrease interest in the regular season. Other than that, it seems like an interesting idea to me (of course, I did think of it). Admittedly, it’s a bit outrageous and would require a major overhaul of how MLB currently operates (major change isn’t always a bad thing). Sometimes, though, it takes considering the most outrageous ideas to come up with the best idea.

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My current favorite realistic ideas for realignment can be found here and here. They both keep the divisions and leagues intact and balance out the schedule pretty well.